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RossGuzzi
05-17-2007, 03:05 AM
Check out MGS 01 thread in Falco section.

Jupiter
05-17-2007, 07:22 PM
Damn, Ross, that is beautiful. Bet it's a kick to ride, too.


And you're right, there's not much to it. Moto Guzzi could make those for a reasonable sum and sell a boatload of 'em.


Hey, what is that thread doing over on the Falco forum, anyhow? Yeah, yeah, I know they're both Piaggio products. :)

JohnG.
05-19-2007, 12:14 AM
Damn, Ross, that is beautiful. Bet it's a kick to ride, too.


And you're right, there's not much to it. Moto Guzzi could make those for a reasonable sum and sell a boatload of 'em.


Yup it beats me...
WHY ISNT THERE A STREET VERSION OF THE MGS01:WTF: :WTF: :WTF:

Quirky
05-19-2007, 07:11 AM
I believe it may have something to do with the new emission norms. They might have slight problems in getting that thing to pass the new Euro3 norms without castrating the beast. Or, it might become way too expensive.

So looks like they'll have to come up with a yet another dull watercooled engine to pass the emission tests more easily.
I wish they did like Benelli did, just work around the problem, with the two map system, but only with more radical differences between them, if necessary. A button to reduce the powerband, or like in Aprilias, easily removable restrictions like an air intake reducer and a wire or a switch to summon a milder, pollution friendly map.

Quirky
05-19-2007, 07:16 AM
Hey, what is that thread doing over on the Falco forum, anyhow? Yeah, yeah, I know they're both Piaggio products.
Nah, it's not the Piaggio thing. Just look at the nick Ross is using. Then look at the bike he's riding. Old habits die hard, you know. :D
I suppose it's better that way, than the other way around. It would be a bit awkward to look for Falco Threads in the Guzzi discussions inside an Aprilia forum. :)

Jupiter
05-19-2007, 11:06 AM
...It would be a bit awkward to look for Falco Threads in the Guzzi discussions inside an Aprilia forum. :)


Good point. :)

t1n0m3n
05-19-2007, 09:31 PM
Any falco discussions in here? ok just checking.
as you were.

JohnG.
05-21-2007, 12:29 AM
I believe it may have something to do with the new emission norms. They might have slight problems in getting that thing to pass the new Euro3 norms without castrating the beast. Or, it might become way too expensive.

So looks like they'll have to come up with a yet another dull watercooled engine to pass the emission tests more easily.
I wish they did like Benelli did, just work around the problem, with the two map system, but only with more radical differences between them, if necessary. A button to reduce the powerband, or like in Aprilias, easily removable restrictions like an air intake reducer and a wire or a switch to summon a milder, pollution friendly map.

If BMW can do it...why not Guzzi???
http://www.cybermotorcycle.com/gallery/bmw/BMW%20R1200S%202006.htm

Quirky
05-21-2007, 12:42 PM
Okay, pehaps I should take that back, since it was not based on confirmed facts. It was just something I remember reading somewhere a while ago. Besides, I believe Guzzi has made one of the first bike models to pass the Euro 3 standards. So why don't they make the MGS a street legal bike, well, I hope someone with better knowledge comes along, eventually.

Could be too expensive or perhaps it's being considered not to be profitable enough to make such a bike in quantities. Just speculating.

JohnG.
05-21-2007, 03:50 PM
...Or maybe the words come down from,parent owner,Piaggio for Guzzi not to make anything too sporty,leaving that to Aprilia who has a new batch of its own motors/models coming out very shortly...
Although I think the Guzzi 1200 '8valve',which is due for release soon,will do good bussiness...but its still no MGS.

RossGuzzi
05-22-2007, 08:07 AM
No, I think they just have thier heads up thier asses!
Im sure they could pass euro 3. Thier new 1200 does!
Stick even the 1200 motor in it with the 4v option and lights, presto....SALES!

VA Sean
05-22-2007, 09:23 AM
There were supposed to be two MGS-O1 models-
The Street and the Track version.
The track version was the one developed first... and @ $30k without many takers ("luigi says, "Pay, and I'll build you one"), I think they lost interest in producing a street version... of course, then they canceled the V11 line, so now they have nothing "sporty/sport-touring" other than the 1200 Sport - which is nothing but a tarted up Breva.

That said, there have been a couple guys who have purchased and mod'ed an MGS for street use.

VA Sean
05-23-2007, 01:39 PM
Here was the one intended for the street (notice the headlight) MGS-01 Serie

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/4451/mgs21280x960copyav3.jpg

this one even has a license plate on it...

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/5136/guzziwerbungny9.jpg

Here is a Corsa (the MGS-O1 that is actually being produced) that has been converted to street duty (I believe the owner lives in California):

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f122/Quattrovalvole/DSCN368220.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f122/Quattrovalvole/DSCN368620.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f122/Quattrovalvole/DSCN368820.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f122/Quattrovalvole/DSCN368320.jpg

JohnG.
05-24-2007, 11:26 AM
No, I think they just have thier heads up thier asses!
Im sure they could pass euro 3. Thier new 1200 does!
Stick even the 1200 motor in it with the 4v option and lights, presto....SALES!

Thats right,I forgot...they're Italian...

Quirky
05-24-2007, 02:34 PM
Or maybe the words come down from,parent owner,Piaggio for Guzzi not to make anything too sporty,leaving that to Aprilia who has a new batch of its own motors/models coming out very shortly...
Although I think the Guzzi 1200 '8valve',which is due for release soon,will do good bussiness...but its still no MGS.
...and again nothing more than a tarted up Breva with a pair of gingerbread brake disks and a premium price tag.
The Piaggio rule could indeed be a more plausible reason for it, together with the fact that producing a street MGS would be very expensive, with all those fancy handmade parts and all. It would become more expensive than Ducati 1098 but with less hp, less this and that. Very hard to sell in quantities.

To a small audience it would make a very interesting and appealing bike, but for the great majority it would be an expensive oddity. I'd like one, for sure, just for the heck of it. But from a more realistic point of view, the most interesting new models and projects coming from Mandello these days are the Griso and the Bellaggio. Put a 1200cc eight valve air cooled OHC engine in those, and we're in business.

backys
05-27-2007, 08:49 AM
Check out MGS 01 thread in Falco section.

http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115696for future searching...:bump: :bump: